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  • in reply to: Does anyone understand the FPR?
    #1904
    Avatarelcamino73
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    BAR is the poster child for government corruption.

    in reply to: Endless problems with OIS/DAD after Windows 11 update
    #1903
    Avatarelcamino73
    Participant

    been working alot better lately after some help from tech support. probably a windows 11 issue.

    in reply to: DAD down
    #1895
    Avatarelcamino73
    Participant

    yeah the BAR screwed up and locked out thousands of stations from performing smog checks.

    BAR should be heavily fined and compensate the stations for smog checks we could not do.

    • This reply was modified 10 months, 1 week ago by Avatarelcamino73.
    in reply to: Easy fix to prevent issuing certificate to wrong vehicle
    #1886
    Avatarelcamino73
    Participant

    The following was in the Spring 2018 newsletter of BAR smog check newsletter. Apparently BAR is in violation of Assembly Bill AB 2289 because as of May 2023 they have yet to fulfill their mandate to prevent smog certificates from being issued when the OIS detects that the scanned VIN and electronic VIN stored in the onboard computer do not match. When the mismatch is detected the OIS still allows the certificate to be issued without displaying any warning on the screen, as it does for example when you mistakenly try to smog a 1999 or older vehicle on the OIS . We should file a class action lawsuit against these crooks.

    Certificate Blocking
    Assembly Bill (AB) 2289 (Eng, Chapter 258, Statutes of 2010) authorized the Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) to prevent the issuance of a Smog Check certificate during an inspection if the On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) data from the vehicle did not correspond with data expected for the vehicle.

    AB 2289 amended Health and Safety (H&S) Code section 44036(b)(3)(K) to authorize BAR to develop a real-time computer data program that prevents a certificate of compliance from being issued if a vehicle is identified as having an excessive variance from computer data for that vehicle, mismatched information, or other irregularities. In addition, the legislation foresaw the need for identified vehicles to be directed for further inspection, as described in H&S Code section 44015(a)(2), which prohibits a licensed Smog Check station from issuing a certificate of compliance to an identified vehicle.

    In February 2017, BAR began implementation of a data check and certificate blocking program to fulfill these mandates. BAR structured the program as follows:

    • BAR collects and characterizes OBDII inspection data for similar vehicles across the state and creates a “vehicle fingerprint.” Each vehicle inspected is then compared in real time to the established vehicle fingerprint.
    • Stations from which inspection data shows patterns of irregular or mismatched computer data are monitored.
    • Inspections with irregular data at these stations are blocked from issuing a certificate and the vehicle is directed to a referee for inspection. Inspections that do not contain irregular data are not blocked, and therefore will pass the inspection.
    • When a vehicle’s certificate of compliance is blocked, the motorist is notified on the Vehicle Inspection Report (VIR) that the inspection resulted in a “Data Fail.” The VIR indicates that a referee inspection is required to obtain a certificate of compliance. The vehicle’s test history page on BAR’s website is updated with the information so that potential buyers can be better informed prior to purchasing a referee-directed vehicle.
    • Once a referee-directed vehicle is certified, the vehicle can return to a Smog Check station on its next inspection cycle.

    Since implementation, approximately 500 stations have had vehicles blocked and redirected to a referee for certification. In conjunction with this effort, BAR has filed approximately 500 administrative cases against stations and inspectors found to have performed OBD clean-plugging inspections of vehicles.

    Certificate blocking has been effective in deterring fraudulent Smog Check activity. BAR will continue to protect consumers, improve California’s air quality, and ensure a fair and competitive business climate for stations and inspectors in California’s Smog Check Program.

    https://www.bar.ca.gov/arsc/newsletters/newsletter/spring-2018/certificate-blocking

    • This reply was modified 1 year ago by Avatarelcamino73.
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    in reply to: Friendly reminder about palm scanner
    #1883
    Avatarelcamino73
    Participant

    You got that right.

    This palm scanner and webcam nonsense will be a huge turn off for anyone considering becoming a smog technician. So it will make it that much harder for station owners to find qualified techs to do the job.

    But that’s what the BAR wants. Inexperienced techs tend to make more mistakes, which gives them the opportunity to write more bogus citations and prosecute you becauese you are expected to be perfect and never make any mistakes.

    These prosecutions are very arbitrary because normally when you make a mistake all that happens is a ding on your STAR report card, but they will arbitrarily choose to treat a simple error as if you just committed a serious crime and take you to court whenever they feel like it. It’s crazy.

     

     

     

    in reply to: Effective October 2022. Webcam required for OIS
    #1876
    Avatarelcamino73
    Participant

    The new OIS update includes a legal disclaimer that says we have no expectation of privacy as shop owners and technicians. I would dispute that. As a private business i believe have an expectation of privacy or at least a degree of privacy. We are not employed by the state, and they are not our employer.

    If you worked in an office as an employee for the state of California then you do not have an expectation of privacy. Just as if you worked for a private (or public employer) they can require, for example a biometric scanner for you to enter the building. But we are not employed by the state.

     

    If there is no expectation of privacy then where does it end? if a few smog techs find a way to defeat the biometric scanners (which has been shown can be easily done by using silly putty for example to make an impression of your fingerprints) will they then require all technicians to submit to DNA blood testing to do a smog check? And force us to buy expensive DNA testing equipment ? This is just crazy nonsense.

    in reply to: Effective October 2022. Webcam required for OIS
    #1874
    Avatarelcamino73
    Participant

    by the way, was there ever a public hearing held on the biometric proposal before it went into effect so people could comment or object to it? or did they just ram it through to prevent anyone from stopping it?

    in reply to: Effective October 2022. Webcam required for OIS
    #1870
    Avatarelcamino73
    Participant

    Any state agency in California  can be sued by private citizens by filing a claim:

    Link to state website:

    Suing the Government or a Public Agency


    I’m thinking about starting some kind of union or industry association to represent the interests and rights of smog shops in California.  Smog shops or techs who want to join can pay a monthly fee. Fees will help pay for legal advice and representation for actions against these abuses. All funds collected and how they are spent would be completely open and transparent.

    The state can screw us over because they know as individuals we don’t have the resources or collective ability to fight back. That is why we need some kind of  group to represent us.

     

     

     

     

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by Avatarelcamino73.
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    in reply to: Effective October 2022. Webcam required for OIS
    #1867
    Avatarelcamino73
    Participant

    This reply has been reported for inappropriate content.

    why the hell is any of this biometric nonsense even needed?

    are there a lot of people who are signing in to do smogs using someone else’s credentials?

    I never heard of anyone receiving a citation for signing in under someone’s technician license.

     

    You hear a lot of about people getting citations for passing an undercover vehicle with missing emissions devices, but never heard about anyone getting one for signing in as someone else. If that is true then there is no justification to require us to do something that rarely if ever happens while giving up our rights under the US constitution. I swear to god we are turning more into a police state  every single day.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by Avatarelcamino73.
    in reply to: Failed to calibrate ESP EVAP machine
    #1866
    Avatarelcamino73
    Participant

    are you using nitrogen or shop air? make sure it is nitrogen because shop air will give you a lot of problems.

    in reply to: Biometric equipment
    #1823
    Avatarelcamino73
    Participant

    What happens when your biometric equipment fails? not only do you lose hundreds of dollars from not being able to do smogs until it gets fixed but they will charge you an arm and a leg for repair or replacement.what a total scam.

    how the hell is this crap even legal we have right to privacy especially as a private business. this crap is totally unconstitutional. are we liiving in police state like china or soviet union because mass surveillance is what those places are known for.

     

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by Avatarelcamino73.
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    in reply to: Effective October 2022. Webcam required for OIS
    #1812
    Avatarelcamino73
    Participant

    That’s crazy. This crap cannot be legal or Constitutional.

    in reply to: ESP Machine yearly propery/asset Tax bill
    #1773
    Avatarelcamino73
    Participant

    i would gladly pay the annual tax if they gave us a machine that worked without breaking down every other week.

     

    i have to make a service call on the pile of crap gen3 almost every week just to get it to function. meanwhile i am losing money during the days it could take the Opus/ESP technician to get to my shop because I can’t do any smogs on the older cars. this piece of junk is far less reliable than the gen2.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 10 months ago by Avatarelcamino73.
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